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Flick ([personal profile] flick) wrote2012-04-20 08:41 pm

Thelma & Louise

I'm watching Thelma & Louise, having recently seen it mentioned in an article, for possibly the first time ever (I remember seeing the ending before, the rest of the film is a bit of a blank to me).

This may be a generational thing, but... wow, that's a bit shit.

Are headscarves on women actually accurate for early nineties non-religious US women? Ditto for most of the first half hour.

And, yes, it passes the Bechdel Test. Because, you know, the women in it are discussing their own reactions to rape and spousal abuse. While the FBI are running after them for shooting a rapist. And Johnny Depp wanders to and fro having not-entirely-consensual sex with one of them before robbing her.

Yeah, great. I think I'd rather watch Heathers. At least it doesn't try to be appealing to the women folk. It just lets them blow things up.
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[personal profile] onyxlynx 2012-04-20 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
Er, that's Brad Pitt, not Johnny Depp. (Although yes, in certain senses, they're interchangeable.)
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[personal profile] bibliofile 2012-04-24 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
The headscarves are fine and, really, required for driving in a convertible. Those scarves, like the car, are probably more retro than anything.

Hey, what have you got against blowing things up? Because usually the women don't get to do it if there are men around.

[identity profile] con-girl.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I hated the movie when it came out. I didn't believe the characters, the ending, the plot. The roles felt that the writers just decided to write a movie as though it were male leads and write in girl names. Given how much I despise gender stereotyping, you might think that I would LOVE a movie where a girl gets to do everything a guy can do. But it was too cardboardie and the ending - well that just put me in mind of 1940s lesbian porn where the people living alternative lifestyles come to bad ends.

HATE, HATE, HATE.
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[identity profile] flickgc.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Having never actually sat down and watched it before*, it was just shite.

* I wandered off a few times. I don't think I missed much.

[identity profile] pickledginger.livejournal.com 2012-04-21 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I thought it was kind of okay until about halfway thru - c'mon, look at the cast! - but, oh, man, the ending?

"Uppity women must die! No, even better, self-destruct!" How uplifting is that. Gah.

And then they pitch it as empowering. Riiiiiight. Empowering grown women to act like 17-year-old boys on a rampage. Great.

How about empowering your way to a nice vendor of fake IDs, a getaway car that isn't classic eye candy, and a new life Someplace Else, instead.

I thought it was pretty toxic, really. As you say, a noir-ish Morality Tale masquerading as rebellion. Next stop, A Handmaid's Tale. What were the co-stars thinking?

[identity profile] guybles.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 08:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Never watched it, and never cared to.

However, I wouldn't be surprised that you'd rather watch Heathers. That's rather like saying you quite enjoy breathing.

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[identity profile] flickgc.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 08:48 pm (UTC)(link)
I suspect that you are saying something to which, if I were sufficiently deviously minded, I would say 'hmph'. But, instead, I shall simply nod knowingly....
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[personal profile] hazelchaz 2012-04-20 08:53 pm (UTC)(link)
What's "Heathers?"
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[identity profile] flickgc.livejournal.com 2012-04-21 09:14 am (UTC)(link)
Utterly fabulous film. Well, I think so!

[identity profile] guybles.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
It's like I know you or something.

[identity profile] nils.livejournal.com 2012-04-20 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're confusing Johnny Depp with Brad Pitt.
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[identity profile] flickgc.livejournal.com 2012-04-21 09:15 am (UTC)(link)
Apparently so!

[identity profile] http://users.livejournal.com/la_marquise_de_/ 2012-04-21 11:04 am (UTC)(link)
Yes to the headscarves, given an open-top car.
I found it disposable. It was marketed as a buddy film for women -- girls are just like boys really! -- and it works on that level. But feminist? No.